![]() The authoritative record of NPR’s programming is the audio record. This text may not be in its final form and may be updated or revised in the future. NPR transcripts are created on a rush deadline by an NPR contractor. Visit our website terms of use and permissions pages at for further information. Miles Parks, NPR News, Las Vegas.Ĭopyright © 2019 NPR. But with voting in primary elections starting in less than six months and with how long it takes to implement changes in the voting-equipment world, it's probably too late to fix those issues. PARKS: After DEF CON is over, a report compiling all the new vulnerabilities that are found this year will be released. RON WYDEN: I'll be damned that when we're up against the Russians and all their military and all their cybersecurity might, we're going to send out the county IT guy. He gave a keynote address this weekend at DEF CON. But Oregon Senator Ron Wyden, a Democrat, still says there's a grave threat. He says he feels it's mostly up to the states and localities to protect themselves. Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell has resisted bringing election security legislation to the floor. PARKS: And yet money for improvements hasn't come this year from Congress. I wouldn't even use this to control a camera at my house or my toaster (laughter). And we're using those systems here to protect our democracy, which is a little bit unsettling (laughter). And he hasn't been impressed.ĪLEX: These systems crash at your Walmart scanning your groceries. It's Alex's first time getting a look at the technology. It lets people understand the equipment companies are providing since there are no rules to provide any sort of public disclosure. But the hackers here still say it's important to do this kind of work. And there's still no evidence any votes were changed in the 2016 election or any election prior to that. PARKS: Election officials are quick to note that the scenario these hackers are working under - unlimited time, machine broken open, chords popping out, beer cans in their hands - they're nothing like a real Election Day. So we're looking for a payload that would allow us to send commands across the Internet to the actual device. RYAN: Right now, we're trying to develop a way to remotely control the voting machine. But right now, in their spare time, they're messing with the innards of democracy. Like a lot of hackers here at DEF CON, they didn't feel comfortable giving their full names. MILES PARKS, BYLINE: Alex (ph) and Ryan (ph) are seated with a bunch of other hackers around a piece of voting equipment that was used in Virginia last year. Markus has been part of Def Con for years and previously severed on the. ![]() NPR's Miles Parks has more from DEF CON 27. In order to demonstrate this, Def Con recruited Brian Markus to create replicas of government election result websites. And one of the things they're hacking into is voting equipment. One of the largest gatherings of hackers in the world is happening this weekend in Las Vegas. The Voting Village acquired and made available to participants over 25 pieces of election equipment including voting machines and electronic poll books.
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